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	<title>Comments on: Sex Education Vs. Abstinence Only Education</title>
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		<title>By: kmichael</title>
		<link>http://www.avoidingevil.com/2007/10/12/sex-education-vs-abstinence-only-education/comment-page-1/#comment-19939</link>
		<dc:creator>kmichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids deserve to learn about bipolar disorder???  Why?  So that we can fill them full of psychotropic drugs?  Bipolar disorder is nothing more than the outpouring of the sinful nature of mankind as a manipulative force on society.  It cannot be cured with medication.  It can only be cured by a submission to of the human will to the divine will of God.  Is it easy?  Of course not, but neither is life, even with Christ.  Be careful using the secular names of mental disorders.  He who names it gets to determine the cure for it.  Go back the Bible--it is sufficient for all things--including the depravity of man.  

As for sex education for children.  Is 6th grade still the recommended age for such courses?  If so, then teach them the journey down the fallopian tube.  Teach them about diseases.  Tell them the truth!  And that is that by NOT having sex (of any kind) STD's can be avoided--and so can pregnancy.  How hard of a concept is this?  Oh, and you obviously do not know how to use he word oxymoron.  There is no possible oxymoron in the phrase "abstinence only education"  

You say that conservatives want children to be ignorant of the "facts."  I want 5 years olds to be ignorant, and 6 years olds, and 7 year olds, and 8...  I am not a child educator, but I still think 6th grade (maybe 5th) is a good time to discuss the biology of it all.  Aside from that, leave it alone.  If an 8 year old wants to learn about sex all they need to do is Google it.  Or as mommy and daddy.  

Public education, in some settings, is a joke. (not to demean my dear friends who are teachers).  We need to fight for school vouchers and our churches need to unite and form "education coops" to educate "our own."

Thanks for playing Allison, but I submit that you are wrong in all of your assumptions.  Compare achievement test scores over the last 50 years with teen pregnancy rates and STD's.  The only conclusion...more kids are having sex, and at a younger age.  This is wrong---do you admit that it is wrong?  Or is desensitized sex the new moral standard?  If that is the case, why bother to teach kids the biology of procreation?  

tootles!

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids deserve to learn about bipolar disorder???  Why?  So that we can fill them full of psychotropic drugs?  Bipolar disorder is nothing more than the outpouring of the sinful nature of mankind as a manipulative force on society.  It cannot be cured with medication.  It can only be cured by a submission to of the human will to the divine will of God.  Is it easy?  Of course not, but neither is life, even with Christ.  Be careful using the secular names of mental disorders.  He who names it gets to determine the cure for it.  Go back the Bible&#8211;it is sufficient for all things&#8211;including the depravity of man.  </p>
<p>As for sex education for children.  Is 6th grade still the recommended age for such courses?  If so, then teach them the journey down the fallopian tube.  Teach them about diseases.  Tell them the truth!  And that is that by NOT having sex (of any kind) STD&#8217;s can be avoided&#8211;and so can pregnancy.  How hard of a concept is this?  Oh, and you obviously do not know how to use he word oxymoron.  There is no possible oxymoron in the phrase &#8220;abstinence only education&#8221;  </p>
<p>You say that conservatives want children to be ignorant of the &#8220;facts.&#8221;  I want 5 years olds to be ignorant, and 6 years olds, and 7 year olds, and 8&#8230;  I am not a child educator, but I still think 6th grade (maybe 5th) is a good time to discuss the biology of it all.  Aside from that, leave it alone.  If an 8 year old wants to learn about sex all they need to do is Google it.  Or as mommy and daddy.  </p>
<p>Public education, in some settings, is a joke. (not to demean my dear friends who are teachers).  We need to fight for school vouchers and our churches need to unite and form &#8220;education coops&#8221; to educate &#8220;our own.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for playing Allison, but I submit that you are wrong in all of your assumptions.  Compare achievement test scores over the last 50 years with teen pregnancy rates and STD&#8217;s.  The only conclusion&#8230;more kids are having sex, and at a younger age.  This is wrong&#8212;do you admit that it is wrong?  Or is desensitized sex the new moral standard?  If that is the case, why bother to teach kids the biology of procreation?  </p>
<p>tootles!</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.avoidingevil.com/2007/10/12/sex-education-vs-abstinence-only-education/comment-page-1/#comment-19938</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If calling sex outside of marriage  sin is wagging my finger than I am guilty.  Sin must be called what sin is.  The Bible is clear it is sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If calling sex outside of marriage  sin is wagging my finger than I am guilty.  Sin must be called what sin is.  The Bible is clear it is sin.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.avoidingevil.com/2007/10/12/sex-education-vs-abstinence-only-education/comment-page-1/#comment-19918</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allison,

I can agree with some of what you said.  I have a problem with the oxymoron statement.  Abstinence education doesn't teach that sex is bad nor does it avoid the topic of sex.  It isn't finger waggin either.  If it were to become that, I would be against it.  Rather, abstinence education seeks to educate about how sex is best and how it is safest.  I don't see how this is upholding ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allison,</p>
<p>I can agree with some of what you said.  I have a problem with the oxymoron statement.  Abstinence education doesn&#8217;t teach that sex is bad nor does it avoid the topic of sex.  It isn&#8217;t finger waggin either.  If it were to become that, I would be against it.  Rather, abstinence education seeks to educate about how sex is best and how it is safest.  I don&#8217;t see how this is upholding ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.avoidingevil.com/2007/10/12/sex-education-vs-abstinence-only-education/comment-page-1/#comment-19828</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What perplexes me is why conservatives uphold ignorance about sexual function as the godly answer to teenage sex and pregnancy. Abstinence-only education is an oxymoron, and one that has no benefit. Kids deserve to know about sex just like they deserve to know about digestion, bipolar disorder, and WWII. Fundamentalists who think wagging their fingers constitutes complete sex education should keep their kids at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What perplexes me is why conservatives uphold ignorance about sexual function as the godly answer to teenage sex and pregnancy. Abstinence-only education is an oxymoron, and one that has no benefit. Kids deserve to know about sex just like they deserve to know about digestion, bipolar disorder, and WWII. Fundamentalists who think wagging their fingers constitutes complete sex education should keep their kids at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.avoidingevil.com/2007/10/12/sex-education-vs-abstinence-only-education/comment-page-1/#comment-19454</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally Boston Legal (a show I love for several reasons) doesn't get me upset. I laugh at the old conservative idiots (make sure they have their booze, guns and women and they will be okay), I chuckle at the liberal slant to the show and smugly shake my head when the most ridiculous decisions are handed down by even dumber juries. But Tuesday night's show got me worked up. I had to stop watching it and return later. It was attacking two institutions that I am closely affiliated with and it burned my buns. 

First the idea that the school is responsible for teaching kids about sex is just ludicrous. I certainly hear what JD is saying but I think an abstinence friendly government is soon going to be gone. If &lt;a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/sex-ed-for-kind.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Obama gets his way, Kindergartners will have sex ed added to the curriculum&lt;/a&gt;. I can see it now: after calendar time the little ones trot on over to the story carpet for their "age appropriate" sex ed lesson. (Wonder what a dumb idea like that will do to teenage pregnancy levels in the future?)

Obviously parents of all backgrounds have completely dropped the ball on this and now schools are expected to pick up the slack. Just like in every other issue that parents don't want to deal with. And then this episode. Grrr....

Of course the girl wouldn't think that she was responsible. Well only a little responsible... They way she and her lawyers portrayed the whole thing you would have thought the principal was there holding her down... Amazing. Yeah, honey. Obviously this is the school's fault not your own.

Good thing it is fiction and I can't wait until next week's episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally Boston Legal (a show I love for several reasons) doesn&#8217;t get me upset. I laugh at the old conservative idiots (make sure they have their booze, guns and women and they will be okay), I chuckle at the liberal slant to the show and smugly shake my head when the most ridiculous decisions are handed down by even dumber juries. But Tuesday night&#8217;s show got me worked up. I had to stop watching it and return later. It was attacking two institutions that I am closely affiliated with and it burned my buns. </p>
<p>First the idea that the school is responsible for teaching kids about sex is just ludicrous. I certainly hear what JD is saying but I think an abstinence friendly government is soon going to be gone. If <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/sex-ed-for-kind.html" rel="nofollow">Obama gets his way, Kindergartners will have sex ed added to the curriculum</a>. I can see it now: after calendar time the little ones trot on over to the story carpet for their &#8220;age appropriate&#8221; sex ed lesson. (Wonder what a dumb idea like that will do to teenage pregnancy levels in the future?)</p>
<p>Obviously parents of all backgrounds have completely dropped the ball on this and now schools are expected to pick up the slack. Just like in every other issue that parents don&#8217;t want to deal with. And then this episode. Grrr&#8230;.</p>
<p>Of course the girl wouldn&#8217;t think that she was responsible. Well only a little responsible&#8230; They way she and her lawyers portrayed the whole thing you would have thought the principal was there holding her down&#8230; Amazing. Yeah, honey. Obviously this is the school&#8217;s fault not your own.</p>
<p>Good thing it is fiction and I can&#8217;t wait until next week&#8217;s episode.</p>
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		<title>By: kmichael</title>
		<link>http://www.avoidingevil.com/2007/10/12/sex-education-vs-abstinence-only-education/comment-page-1/#comment-19449</link>
		<dc:creator>kmichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really Michael?  That should get one banned from church for life!!!  Ok, may be jsut a couple weeks.  Even some Christians do not believe in the Sufficiency of Scripture or the power of the Holy Spirit, or the side effects of those drugs on little girls.    Vatashame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Michael?  That should get one banned from church for life!!!  Ok, may be jsut a couple weeks.  Even some Christians do not believe in the Sufficiency of Scripture or the power of the Holy Spirit, or the side effects of those drugs on little girls.    Vatashame!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Christian parents that put their daughters on the pill so I don't know if the Christians are any better off teaching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Christian parents that put their daughters on the pill so I don&#8217;t know if the Christians are any better off teaching it.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sexual education should be something taught in the home and these parents should have been responsible as well.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm going to go ahead and say that I don't know which side of the fence I fall on here.  Part of me thinks that sex education in the hands of the public school is dangerous thing.  As disturbed as I am at thought, it pales in comparison to the thought of some parents I know education their kids about sex.  To them, sex education is supplying their kid with a pack of condoms and some privacy.  

If good abstinence education is in place, I'd have to say that (on the whole) I'm more comfortable with the school handling sex ed instead of stupid parents.  Of course, the best is to have it handled by Christian parents who know what the heck they're doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sexual education should be something taught in the home and these parents should have been responsible as well.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to go ahead and say that I don&#8217;t know which side of the fence I fall on here.  Part of me thinks that sex education in the hands of the public school is dangerous thing.  As disturbed as I am at thought, it pales in comparison to the thought of some parents I know education their kids about sex.  To them, sex education is supplying their kid with a pack of condoms and some privacy.  </p>
<p>If good abstinence education is in place, I&#8217;d have to say that (on the whole) I&#8217;m more comfortable with the school handling sex ed instead of stupid parents.  Of course, the best is to have it handled by Christian parents who know what the heck they&#8217;re doing.</p>
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